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  • Published on Jul 26, 2019
  • So I invited my friend Heidi to join me in this video where we discuss various aspects of the Finnish healthcare system and nursing.
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Comments • 61

  • Amber Touch
    Amber Touch 16 days ago

    I had no idea that rural areas don't have emergency health services. No wonder everyone moves to the city.

  • Heather Greisha
    Heather Greisha 22 days ago

    Hmmm...So there’s no national board exams for nurses to be a registered nurse in Finland then? Just interviews and applications?

  • Heather Greisha
    Heather Greisha 23 days ago

    kiitos ladies, very informative.but we need part 2 of this video. Nurse heidi needs to read the questions first as to be ready and prepared before a video, she looks shocked here, hehehe

    • KatChats
      KatChats  10 days ago

      What sorts of information would you want us to discuss in more detail? :) (We will definitely rehearse more next time haha)

  • Daniel Gutiérrez
    Daniel Gutiérrez 25 days ago

    Kath where are youuuuuuuuuuuu

    • KatChats
      KatChats  23 days ago

      I had an exam today D: Don't worry, I'm planning a cool collab for this channel, we'll film next weekend! :D

  • George Vassilev
    George Vassilev 28 days ago

    You should upload more on here Kat. Tell people about your other pride of Finland - Linux. Best OS ever.
    BTW, you are very cute. Can you tell us how to impress Finnish ladies? Something in spefic I can learn, different to my stupid Bulgarian manners.

    • KatChats
      KatChats  10 days ago

      Last weekend I did film a little collab thing, waiting for him to finish editing and send the stuff over. So very soon! Nice idea :) I think if you want to watch something right now, the channel Aleksi Himself has a street interview with Finnish women regarding that topic :)

  • Esmeralda Landa
    Esmeralda Landa Month ago

    Is your friend a foreign student ?

    • KatChats
      KatChats  Month ago

      @Esmeralda Landa She is a Finnish student and got her degree in Finland, but she did an exchange placement in the UK

    • Esmeralda Landa
      Esmeralda Landa Month ago

      She mentions she’s an RN , did she get her degree as an foreign student

  • James
    James Month ago

    I think healthcare in France is overrated! I can't count how many times I've had interactions with different medications. Everytime I mention that there has been an interaction ( not big but minor/moderate interaction) to a doctor or at the A&E they always deny it, it's as if they allergic to the word "interaction" 😂 They say it's anxiety or it's something else, this has happened several times, not once did they agree that there was an interaction ( albeit small )even though I had symptoms of an interaction/ serotonin syndrome ( Tachycardia
    , Myoclonus, Mild hyperreflexia, fast heartbeat, chest pain, nausea,etc) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2464814/. The doctors & some nurses at hospitals I've been to here in Aubagne & before in Perpignan are so dumb, incompetent & ignorant.


    I'll explained what happened this morning: I went to the hospital this morning because I suspected an interaction between 2 drugs: Mirtazapine and Benylin (cold /flu medication). Indeed I took the benylin because of a cold / flu since Thursday. I took the last dose at 4 pm Sunday and then at midnight I took mirtazapine. So since I hardly drunk any water to get the meds out of my system in the meantime and there was only 7 hours between each med (you have to leave about 24 hours of space between each meds), I think there was an interaction ( albeit small not big) since I had all the symptoms of serotonin syndrome (Tachycardia, myoclonus, muscle spasm, convulsions, hyperreflexia, rapid pulse, high blood pressure, chest pain).


    When I explain this to the secretary (so-called nurse) she tells me that Benylin does not interact with Mirtazapine even if on the leaflet of benylin is clearly marked that one should not take antidepressant tricyclic (mirtazapine is a tetratrycylic drug so it's the same class of antidepressants as the trycyclic ADs). And on the medication interaction checker websites between drugs that I often consult: rxlist.com and druginteractionchecker.com they say that one of the ingredients of benylin interacts with Mirtazapine and that it can cause serotonin syndrome and that is potentially "life threatening".


    "Monitor CloselyPotential for significant interaction (monitoring by your doctor is likely required)
    PHENYLEPHRINE-DM-ACETAMINOPHEN-GUAIFENESIN ORAL AND MIRTAZAPINE ORAL
    phenylephrine-dm-acetaminophen-guaifenesin oral and mirtazapine oral both increase affecting serotonin levels in the blood. Too much serotonin is a potentially life-threatening situation. Severe signs and symptoms include high blood pressure and increased heart rate that lead to shock."


    So anyway they make me wait 2 hours without anyone seeing me, not even to take my blood pressure. I had to ring the doorbell to see someone. Then I saw the doctor: when I told him that there was an interaction (it's written on the notice and on the site rxlist.com) he said no, it's just anxiety.


    Some doctors / nurses in Aubagne are so incompetent and dumb! So when I was sleeping quietly at home (I was not anxious, I was relaxed) I wake up suddenly (I think it's called myoclonus or spasms: a quick, involuntary muscle jerk. Hiccups are a form of myoclonus, as are the sudden jerks, or "sleep starts," you may feel just before falling asleep. ) it wasn't anxiety!


    This is due to an interaction. I must add this is not the first time this has happened to me. I had several interactions between different drugs before and I found that the doctors / nurses here in Aubagne and before in Perpignan are so ignorant about drug interactions. For them the interaction between 2 meds is impossible, WTF?


    There are small interactions as well as big interactions as written on drugs.com or rxlist.com. Although it was a small interaction but I was lucky this time, if I had taken a higher dose, it would have been a serious interaction (the serotonin syndrome) but I'm sure the nurses / doctors at the " Casamance " hospital in Aubagne or any other hospital in France will deny it! It's as if they are allergic to the word "interaction" or they do not like this word lmao. I remember I had an interaction between 2 drugs: Bilastine and mirtazapine when I was in Perpignan, I had symptoms of an interaction: rapid pulse, chest pain, nausea, myoclonus, spasms. The "Catalan" nurse I saw (with his stupid Catalan accent) tells me that " ce sont des impatiences" lol! wtf? So in English Myoclonus( which refers to a quick, involuntary muscle jerk) are " impatients"? wtf!


    And then people say that France has the best "healthcare" in the world. I think hospitals and doctors in other countries/cities: Dublin or Helsinki for example are more competent, smarter and a little more developed then hospitals / doctors in the South of France (in Perpignan and Aubagne).
    I really think Norweigans & Irish docs/ nurses are smarter more intelligent than the French ( or where I live they're called Catalans or Marseillais)


    If you read the reviews & compare ( on google map type hospitals in Helsinki then hospitals in Aubagne/Perpignan): Several hospitals in Helsinki & Dublin have 5 star ratings! Whereas in France whether it's Perpignan or Aubagne they have 2 or 3 star ratings! And most reviews are from French people!


    When I lived abroad in Dublin, doctors and hospitals were more informed about drug interactions. Even pharmacists are smarter and more competent than some hospitals or doctors. Pharmacists check their interactions on their computer, and on many occasions have informed me that there is a minor/ big interaction while in the hospital and some doctors deny that there are interactions, they say always that it's something else!


    So I dont know if France has the best healthcare. One thing for sure is that French docs/nurses think interactions between medications dont exist, that's the only thing bad about the French healthcare, they're ignorant about drug interactions.

    I think one of the Scandinivian countries has the" best healthcare either Finland or Norway! Also I'm sure some Scandinivians can confirm that Scandinivian countries have excellent health care!

  • mahmuda sultana
    mahmuda sultana Month ago

    sis where r u now...miss u so much.....from Bangladesh

  • shane 062801
    shane 062801 Month ago

    Hi, How's life anything special happening? Hope your doing well,
    Miss your content! ♡

    • shane 062801
      shane 062801 Month ago

      Awesome!

    • KatChats
      KatChats  Month ago +1

      I'm good, just been moving to a new place ! Starting my Master's and taking this weekend to finally sit down and do some research on video ideas :)

  • Aragorn II Elessar
    Aragorn II Elessar 2 months ago +1

    I love your channel. It would be cool if you made a video about the winter war. It's a very pivotal and important part of Finnish history so I think it would make an excellent video.

  • Daniel kytonen
    Daniel kytonen 2 months ago

    Wow you look like Jennifer Lawrence. Do you live in Finland and if you do then where? I live in Kotka and me and my family are going to move to Helsinki soon.

  • EBram Adel
    EBram Adel 2 months ago +1

    Could you please do a video about medical school? I am coming to Finland next year and i really need this info.

    • EBram Adel
      EBram Adel Month ago

      First thanks very much for your reply 💟
      I am playing on that point now, and I hope to reach b2 level at the end of next July, is it good?!

    • wind wanderer
      wind wanderer Month ago +1

      For medical school I think you need to know Finnish. Even for Nursing major in ammattikorkeakoulu you've already need sufficient Finnish.

  • HanseL
    HanseL 3 months ago +1

    Nice video,really interesting know more about the healthcare of other countries.

  • UFOnutCZ KoKoSS
    UFOnutCZ KoKoSS 3 months ago

    Could you please do video, in which you will react on Finnish memes please😁

  • Daniela !!!
    Daniela !!! 3 months ago

    Is her name a finnish name? Because the "hei" syllabe sounds like the way E and I sound in english. Do you say Hay-Dee in finnish as well?

  • kaani bakim
    kaani bakim 3 months ago

    Hey kitty, gregoriy petrov is the most important writer in finland?

  • Ben Fuller
    Ben Fuller 3 months ago +2

    Hyvää syntymäpäivää sinulle Katya!

  • pahakasvi venuksesta
    pahakasvi venuksesta 3 months ago

    Sorry, but not quite right. She does not know. She has just graduated. Too hard questions for her. .

    • KatChats
      KatChats  3 months ago

      She graduated two years ago

  • Federico Borluzzi
    Federico Borluzzi 3 months ago

    I remember Heidi from some of your older videos. NIce to see her and you again and it's an interesting subject, of course. :)

  • Mogos Tommi
    Mogos Tommi 3 months ago

    Great!

  • Ilmarinen7
    Ilmarinen7 3 months ago +1

    Thank you Heidi!

    I really liked your wedding ring example. In the UK, they have trouble getting over the emotional hump of "it's a wedding ring", so much so that they ignore the obvious risk represented. Contrast the practical Finnish default of "It's a clear risk to hygiene. Don't wear it.".

    Revealing cultural snippet, and interesting guest choice.

  • S G
    S G 3 months ago +1

    Just a correction, Non EU citizens on resident permits aren’t covered to receive free(that almost free) healthcare unless it’s a permanent residence permit. During my stay in Finland as an exchange semester student, I had to buy a private health insurance. It was just under 50 euros a month(for a zero deductible and coverage upto 100,000 USD) but on flip side, I won’t have to pay anything even for private consultation.

  • NothingAsItSeems_Tia
    NothingAsItSeems_Tia 3 months ago +2

    Kiittos paljon Heidi ja Kat

  • Thorbjørn Vaasi
    Thorbjørn Vaasi 3 months ago

    Just a quick note - the NHS is NOT free. People who work pay very hefty insurance for the NHS. When i was an apprentice earning £1.90 per hour i was still paying over £15 a week for my national insurance. My mother earned £92k a year and was paying over £500 a month.
    You also pay for prescriptions unless you're jobless, a pensioner or a student.
    The NHS is free for people who have never worked. If you work you pay for your healthcare the same as you do in any other country. And compared to every other country in Europe its service is vastly inferior.

    • Ilmarinen7
      Ilmarinen7 3 months ago

      NHS isn't free - but you don't pay for care when you need it. Also, National Insurance is basically just income tax. It doesn't pay for the NHS, at least no more than any other tax. Looking at your National Insurance bill doesn't tell you how much you're paying for the NHS because it's also funded out of the rest of taxation, as is every other thing the Government spends money on.
      Better example is to find out health proportion in UK govt spending so you can tell what proportion of your tax bill goes to the NHS.
      2018-19, UK Govt spent around £750bn, of which Health was c. £150bn. So about 20% of the tax you pay goes on health.
      Sorry, slight digression: if you want to know what share UK public spending on health is of GDP, it's about 7.2%. In the US it's more than double that - despite the fact they're richer per head, have worse outcomes (e.g. die younger), and many people aren't covered properly at all. US health system is vastly more expensive but Americans still have worse health care than Brits (or Finns).

  • mrfriendlyguy
    mrfriendlyguy 3 months ago +1

    I know Finland is one of the places which have reciprocal care with Australia, so if any Australians get sick in Finland, the Finnish will treat us there for the usual charge and vice versa.

    What I want to know is the Finnish health system very Generalist based, that is you see a Generalist who if they can't treat you, refer you to the appropriate specialist. Or is it specialist base, where the patient just selects the specialist they want to see, and book an appointment, even though they might end up picking the wrong specialty for their condition.

    • LapinPete
      LapinPete 10 days ago

      On public side you will see a doctor who will refer you to speacialist if needed. On the private sector you can choose the specialist. If it's on the private sector, but your employer is paying, you're going to see the appointed doctor first who will then refer you to a specialist.

  • 이선생님
    이선생님 3 months ago +3

    How Finish can speak english so well? Even english is not their native language..

    • LapinPete
      LapinPete 10 days ago

      It's cold and people spend lots of time indoords on the internet chatting, watching movies and cat videos, playing video games etc. Most of these services are in English. //the real reason

    • HanseL
      HanseL 3 months ago +2

      이선생님 the educational system.

  • Dave Henderson
    Dave Henderson 3 months ago +2

    Thank you Heidi and Kat. That was very informative about things that I had wondered about.
    This is slightly off topic, but I find it amazing that so many people in Finland can switch between Finnish & English so easily and, while doing so, speak much better English than many anglophones!

  • irou95
    irou95 3 months ago +1

    Heidi is so right about Diak and AMK in general being a joke. There is so much useless stuff people have to go through. People in universities make jokes about AMK all the time and while that is done with a good spirit, they are right after all.
    -someone who is on my 4th and last year of amk

  • Stephan Pablo Bermejo Quiroga

    Good job Kat and Heidi!! This video is very good for people who want to have a clue of the medical system in Finland. I love to help people as doctors and nurses do and I respect all these heroes who help people. That's why I would love to help these heroes through bioengineering. It would be very helpful if I can implement bioelectronics, regenerative medicine and biomechanics at some private or public health centers there in Finland. I would like to do a PhD or Master degree in some of those specialties in Finland in order to be able to work there with nice and intelligent doctors and nurses and say: "Let's save living beings!"

  • Ted Nguyen
    Ted Nguyen 3 months ago

    nurse gets paid well in usa

  • YoshiPeach Mario
    YoshiPeach Mario 3 months ago

    Hi Heidi

  • Erik096
    Erik096 3 months ago +1

    Thank you so much for this video I'm currently a u.s. citizen trying to pursue my dream to go to Finland and study nursing there kuopio I still don't know a few things but this video does help a lot

  • Arthur Vieira
    Arthur Vieira 3 months ago

    Thanks Heidi. Are you in Portugal working as a nurse? Curious change. I come from there, so I was a bit more curious to hear about differences between there and here in Finland.
    In Portugal I had the ADSE insurance system as a youngster, given to me because my mother was a state worker and payed it. So I don't have a quite clear understanding of Portuguese system nor Finnish. From what I noticed, here in Finland waiting times were quite big, both general and dental doctors. But I didn't have any serious issue that needed immediate attention.
    The dental services seem to cost the same as in PT. Basic checkup was 20eu and something like tooth extraction was around 50eu. Similar to PT.

  • Jari Satta
    Jari Satta 3 months ago

    Heidi varo, huomenna unikeon päivä ; )
    Hywä video

  • Steel Wolf
    Steel Wolf 3 months ago +1

    Fascinating information. Thank you Kat!

  • Aaron Jaff
    Aaron Jaff 3 months ago +1

    Idk why but it felt really awkward😂.

    • Aaron Jaff
      Aaron Jaff 3 months ago +1

      @KatChats or maybe you were more like let's get this video done and sit there in silence like a normal finn😂😂🔫.

    • KatChats
      KatChats  3 months ago +3

      Takes time to get used to talking in front of a camera!

  • leef226
    leef226 3 months ago +17

    A kind thank you to you both for sharing your knowledge on Finnish health care.

    • KatChats
      KatChats  3 months ago +1

      Thank you for watching too! :)

  • Laith Miry
    Laith Miry 3 months ago +1

    valuable information,thanks.i was think to study in Finland but I couldn’t maybe in future if there’s chance

  • EricArts
    EricArts 3 months ago +6

    Very interesting subject matter for someone like myself, whos interested in nursing and the medical field in general! Also, you guys are incredibly fluent in English!

    • KatChats
      KatChats  3 months ago +1

      Thank you for being kind, and for watching. Much appreciated :)

    • EricArts
      EricArts 3 months ago

      And kiitos Heidi! :)

  • Владимир Ильич Ульянов

    Good video, hello from Brazil :)