Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story

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  • Published on Jul 17, 2019
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    Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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  • Richard Norman
    Richard Norman Day ago

    #StopSupportingStupidity ... teach everyone to understand the engineering (expectantly the Lack of ... marketing scheme [Nike, Apple, Elon Musk, and other overpriced 'crap'] ).

  • neil johnson
    neil johnson Day ago

    and for all those youtubers using red like 4 of you get pissed off for the rest of the world keep hoping the lens in your phone is good enough

  • Jeremy Parker
    Jeremy Parker Day ago

    9:45 There's a problem with this drive. Scan the drive now and fix it.

  • Nathan Miller Video

    Been a RED user for a few years now. You have to buy the Mag slot anyway separately so why can’t they provide other options like you can which just about everything else you can attach to the camera like maybe a CFAST 2.0 module to record to that? Or a 2.5” SSD if you are not going to touch the lower compression ratios. I don’t even shoot less than 13:1 anyway. The video bit rate would be fine!

  • George A
    George A Day ago

    So will it work if I swap out the ssd in there with my own ssd?

  • readme info
    readme info Day ago +1

    I am genuinely impressed by how honest you've remained all this time. Great job. So many other YT chans have clearly signed a deal with the devil. BUT YOU, you are the real deal. Thank you.

  • readme info
    readme info Day ago

    Remember those unique chinese made RAID enabled SATA cards that were made up of smaller microSD cards, you reviewed awhile back? I wonder if for redundancy sakes, someone could use a similar adapter that either allows 2 mSATA cards, or simply 2 microSD cards, in RAID 1, and jam it all into a REDX mini mag case, and have built in RAID support :)

  • Jory Ferrell
    Jory Ferrell Day ago

    So...moral of the story: stop buying their products until they stop ripping people off.

  • Jo Blo
    Jo Blo 2 days ago

    I really had no idea what the issue was about before, but the explanation was so well articulated and had such a balanced perspective i feel like I should want retribution for all the money on them i never spent.

  • BCGTR
    BCGTR 3 days ago

    I looked these up and I was like, how much is that gonna cost, $1000 max, then I looked it up and it was $2350 at B&H which is insane. A used 120gb at adorama was literally over $600. Thats insane

  • XonereX
    XonereX 3 days ago

    Red has a super scummy business model. I honestly think buying their overpriced camera was a mistake on Linus' part. A 4k camera wouldve been just as practical and quite a bit cheaper

  • Singled Out Pictures

    Anything to do with cinema production is ridiculously over priced, from the body to the lenses to the accessories. It's a racket!

  • Johannes Dolch
    Johannes Dolch 6 days ago

    So, y'all are fine with spending as much on a camcorder as a fully outfitted Mercedes E Class, but then complain that the cards they sell are too expensive? lol. But I agree, they should put the best in there, meaning 2 of the best SSDs they can find in a Raid 1 Configuration. (That would actually also justify putting it all in a cool proprietary cartridge.

  • RamenGod
    RamenGod 7 days ago

    Lmao imagine using fat32

  • joshua41175
    joshua41175 8 days ago

    So when is the red camera water cooler done

  • BlockArchitech
    BlockArchitech 9 days ago

    Notice: if your going to make a comment saying ‘oh proceeds to show USA markings’ note that he got his before the entire scandal happened

  • Me 2
    Me 2 10 days ago

    them R&D monies are 100% used to calc how to get the most profit out of nothing fooling people in the unknown.

  • Liam
    Liam 10 days ago

    You didn't know they were just SSds in an enclosure? Thats what the industry is right now lol we do the same thing in our products.

  • sprrocket
    sprrocket 10 days ago

    Linus: RED splits the video footage into 4GB files
    me: wait are they STILL using fat32
    Linus: it's because they're using fat32

    skdjflaksjdflkasjdf

    • Gabriel I
      Gabriel I 8 days ago

      sprrocket hmm fat32 isn’t bad its still a staple around the gaming market like Motherboard os updates

  • roblax87
    roblax87 10 days ago

    Great job documenting the bots!

  • nitrxgen
    nitrxgen 12 days ago

    1:30 what kind of psychopath uses a screwdriver like THAT WTF

  • Titan Gaming
    Titan Gaming 13 days ago

    could have said, 'Made on Earth'

  • Ionixt E. Bix
    Ionixt E. Bix 13 days ago

    im surprised that linus actually tried to protect the company that pretty much scam him

  • Solomon Ucko
    Solomon Ucko 14 days ago

    The size inconsistency could also be due to unit confusion: 476.8 GiB ≈ 512 GB, 480 GiB ≈ 515.4 GB, 931.3 GiB ≈ 1 TB, 960 GiB ≈ 1.031 TB

  • DragonNexus
    DragonNexus 14 days ago +15

    "Red claims this is to protect the user from accidental deletions"
    *Off camers scoffing laugh*

  • Darian Kimberly
    Darian Kimberly 15 days ago

    Welp, never getting a red.

  • mirk bir
    mirk bir 17 days ago

    Hehehehehe!

  • Sonny12681
    Sonny12681 17 days ago

    I bet it costs less than $5 to manufacture this camera and it's parts and they jack up the price to a ridiculous about. That company is committing a scam.

  • MISC BITS
    MISC BITS 19 days ago

    Msata is still a thing?

  • carphotography101
    carphotography101 19 days ago

    I hope this was filmed on a RED Cinema camera...

  • Peter Chiung
    Peter Chiung 19 days ago +1

    basically RED Ceo wants to profit as much as possible at the expense of customers tricking them that they are getting a far better product.

  • Informed Choice
    Informed Choice 20 days ago

    Oh, a shitty greedy company overcharging without justification. Red Dead Non-Redemption

  • John Grimes
    John Grimes 21 day ago

    WTF? Spare area? You mean over provisioning? Come on linus you know better then that. Use proper terms please. Its never good to teach people improper terminology.

  • John Grimes
    John Grimes 21 day ago

    Maybe dont rip people off and people wont rip off your ideas. Fuck Red. Camera price is understandable but all the peripherals? Insane...

  • Dakota Martin
    Dakota Martin 22 days ago

    0:59
    First time I've ever heard a Canadian say "ya'll"

  • Gordon The Train
    Gordon The Train 23 days ago

    I can't believe it. Linus! Linus! is protecting red. this is weird because he wasn't to happy when he bought it

  • Sun Pak
    Sun Pak 28 days ago

    lmao red also sells a basic SSD reader for $250
    www.red.com/red-station-mini-mag-usb-3

    A 9 foot LITERAL CAT 5 to proprietary fake cat 5 port for $120
    www.red.com/RED-GIG-E-Right-to-CAT5E-Ethernet-Cable-9
    a "tactical" handle for $150
    www.red.com/dsmc2-universal-handle

  • Kerim Kerim
    Kerim Kerim 28 days ago +1

    Nobody: I'm about to end this guy's entire career.
    Not even a single soul: Everybody
    Me: Wait that's illegal.
    RU-clip's Recommendations: It's free real estate.
    Am I a joke to you:
    Also Me:

  • SOL WOLF
    SOL WOLF 28 days ago

    Linus will go down in history as a legend

  • The Adventure Biker
    The Adventure Biker 28 days ago

    I am late to the partay. Just.....Wow.

  • kasa
    kasa 29 days ago

    I think jinn1mag should be called out for their false statements. But I'm glad they are out there and vent viral. Red is still charging obscene amount of money for an adapter. And on top of that they have clearly taken steps to stop user from using third party drives. Even though they are using standard hardware that could be very easily changed if not for manufactured obstructions.
    Also, it's true that it's ultimately on customer to decide. But it's kind of messed up if customer had to do in depth research on every product they buy to be assured they get real value. I think Jinn1Mag did service to people by bringing awareness to this.
    Ultimately as far as Red mini mag is concerned, everything about it is designed to take as much money from people as possible. I mean recovery service is just another way justify the price and low quality. You could just as well take it to any other recovery service as the hardware is standard. I wouldn't be surprised at all actually if they used third party service for recovery anyway.
    Reading worker reviews about red kind of gives me image that Red's management is just bunch of greedy assholes.

  • TheRealCritique
    TheRealCritique 29 days ago

    F RED. Other companies are catching up to their proprietary BS and offering equivalent quality at 20% of the price. They blew it. Hope they collapse.

  • Ionixt E. Bix
    Ionixt E. Bix 29 days ago

    why tf is linus defending a money-eating company lol

  • Masterpj555
    Masterpj555 Month ago

    Red camera is a scam company who makes lots of claims about inventing things but actually is just a company who repurposes tech > puts it in a different enclosure and then adds lockout chips. Don't support this company

  • Ariana Hadley
    Ariana Hadley Month ago +1

    15 mins of my life I will never get back

  • TheImmoralCookie
    TheImmoralCookie Month ago

    To be fair, you could probably find a few hundred computer engineers that could design their own SSDs like Red's and it be either free or really fucking cheap.

  • Ayoub
    Ayoub Month ago +27

    samsung: sells good SSD's for a low price
    RED: wait, thats illigal!!

  • Gonçalo Alegria
    Gonçalo Alegria Month ago

    What a shill

  • Rakesh Battula
    Rakesh Battula Month ago +1

    hope they had a better explanation to save their faces

  • MinecraftMike
    MinecraftMike Month ago

    I was on RED's side until I saw the price for that SSD. What a joke kek

  • Robert Wright
    Robert Wright Month ago

    Excellent video!

  • William Creegan
    William Creegan Month ago

    Nice job Linus .

  • Kyle Robertson
    Kyle Robertson Month ago +1

    My question here becomes this, if u don't like what a company is doing, and evidently have complaints about their product, why do u still use it.

    Annnddd, if the answer is "it's the best product for us" or something, then stop whining

    • Shanee Bahera
      Shanee Bahera 19 days ago

      he isnt whining about them, its because this blew up a few months ago and people were asking him to adress it

  • T B
    T B Month ago

    DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Linus went off

  • ZoeBios121
    ZoeBios121 Month ago

    Red has engineered a raid 1 solution. You're using it wrong. You're supposed to buy 2 complete rigs and 2 people to operate the two rigs.

  • AJComputerServicesUK

    12:03 hahahahaha 😂

  • vegoutwithvegge
    vegoutwithvegge Month ago

    Now that someone else's video has gone viral its time to copy it.

  • The Glow Cloud
    The Glow Cloud Month ago

    Here's a novel solution: STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO RED. Why do RU-cliprs who get big enough think they all have to buy overpriced Red bullshit? Fuck them.

    • The Glow Cloud
      The Glow Cloud Month ago

      I'd suggest Sony F35/F65, Panavision Genesis, Arri D-21 or the newer Alexa, or a Thompson Viper.

    • Loreaver
      Loreaver Month ago

      What other camera would you recommend?

  • MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
    MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Month ago

    Wait y’all did some editing after the fact. I didn’t know you can add more images and voice over after the fact. RU-clip editing getting more advanced

  • RectalDiscourse
    RectalDiscourse Month ago

    The only mags I have experience with are pornographic