Blacksmithing - Easy 4 or 5 Ton Princess Auto Log Splitter to a forge press? Will it work?

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  • Published on Apr 22, 2019
  • So this actually worked out very well. Perfect for small Damascus projects and for drawing out steel.
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  • Kim Curtis
    Kim Curtis Month ago +1

    Great job! I just subscribed and will continue watching whatever you upload!
    I'd like to see your working of this after you get dies for drawing out. It would be great to see you make a small Damascus knife using this press to draw the billet out to a useable length.
    I have an 8 ton log splitter that uses a bottle jack and hand power to spit the logs and I want to convert it to hydraulic so that I can use it in my Smithy! I have yet to make ANY Damascus billets because I am disabled to the point that I don't have the strength anymore, to wield a heavy enough hammer to get the job done.
    You and a couple of other have inspired me to get the damn thing done so that I can begin to make some Damascus knives!
    Thanks for the video proving that a small spitter CAN be made into a forging press! AND thanks for the inspiration!! Being 67 is sometimes a problem because you KNOW how to do a lot of things but, EXISTING on Social Security and nothing else is a real pain in the patootie!
    Never enough money to get the parts to put together what you NEED in the Smithy!
    Thanks, again for the video and the inspiration!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  Month ago

      You are very welcome sir!!! I will do my best and finish it as soon as possible. I am also bringing my other forge back because i think it will be able to reach forge welding temps now. My coal forge isnt good with the smoke aspect and i dont want to gas myself out this winter but i will keep on forging anyway i can.

  • Donald Lemoine
    Donald Lemoine 2 days ago

    Great video!!! What did you use to make the inserts to change it from a splitter to a press?

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  2 days ago

      I used 3" pipe for the rams and coil spring for the dies

  • SlowplayRJ
    SlowplayRJ 22 days ago +1

    Awesome job...Do you plan on making it upright, by building a frame for support. May make it easier for the coordination problem? If not, maybe a tool rest that can help steady the steel so you don't have to float it while you're pressing? Again, Great Job!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  22 days ago

      Ive been thinking about it actually. A very near future vid will be me finishing the build and making a few adjustments. Some of these splitters have a tilt shut off safety feature so dont know if going vertical will happen or not i still need to see if mine has that feature but i have no issues with it its not really hard floating it the billets are nice and light too.

  • Edgunsuk
    Edgunsuk 23 days ago +1

    Hi m8 dont know if its been said or if this is an old video but you need taller dies and half round ones to stop the steps and then cold shuts happening , i think this maybe the first 4t log splitter conversion i have found on you tube in 6 years thanks Blacksmith UK wales .edit PS , spring system welded to the frame that pushed the button down and the lever that way you have both hands free

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  23 days ago

      I also built the damn thing because every one said it wouldn't work...i begged to differ

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  23 days ago

      Yup you bet buddy its just a proof of concept but will be doing a better job at it pretty soon. I have a bunch of projects lined up first before i finish the press

  • Metamorphic Mutt Metal L.L.C.

    You sir are a genius! Bravo

  • Adam Rice
    Adam Rice Month ago

    Awesome video man!

  • Adam Rice
    Adam Rice Month ago +1

    Couple of things just happened... 1. I subscribed to your channel
    2. On marketplace looking for a electric log splitter
    3. Regretting not doing this sooner

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  Month ago

      Whoooo hooooo one more for the cause!!!!! Glad to have you along buddy!!!!

  • Rob Nabakowski
    Rob Nabakowski Month ago

    I know you're getting a ton of them, but here's another one...Thank you. I, too, was wondering if this could work. Best of luck.

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  Month ago

      Just happy i could help man cheers!!!

  • HappyandAtheist
    HappyandAtheist Month ago

    I would rig the pedel so it also press the button :)

  • HappyandAtheist
    HappyandAtheist Month ago +1

    nice one :) well done Sir

  • ken Bullock
    ken Bullock Month ago +1

    Genius.... thanks for sharing...

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  Month ago

      You are very welcome!! Ill do a final build on the thing soon and throw it on the youtubes

  • Abyss
    Abyss 2 months ago

    Defintely want one of these after building a power hammer that didnt hit like expected, log splitters seem way easier to come by for sure.

  • michael k
    michael k 2 months ago +1

    Thankyou for the example

  • Justin Topp
    Justin Topp 3 months ago

    I have access to a small hydraulic gas powered splitter I think 4-6 ton range if not more that I’m going to convert into a small press. It’s junk otherwise so may as well. Nice video

    • Justin Topp
      Justin Topp 3 months ago +1

      CG Smithing will do! I’m getting it from the farm next week along with a horizontal bandsaw. It’s going to take a while to get all the parts and things because it’s complete but the motor and hydraulics are bad so I need new ones. Really just the frame and the cylinder are good I believe

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  3 months ago

      Sweet!!! Email me with pictures when ur done its in the description id like to see the end result

  • Clayton Moffat
    Clayton Moffat 4 months ago +1

    Beauty I got the same splitter 🇨🇦 I think it was mentioned, but use a piece of plate for a pedal, and make the linkage out of ready rod, with the switch wired into it so 2x hands are free, but better yet you should send this to princess auto, they have a contest for investors for $$ in store fyi

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  4 months ago

      Sweeeeet!!!! Ive bin so busy with renos in the house i havent touched the splitter in a month yet but i have all the components to make it work just waiting on me.

  • Brian Rourke
    Brian Rourke 4 months ago +1

    Yes a good concept. From an industrial Blacksmith of 47 years in the trade.
    Some tips.
    Take half the bite you are taking first up. 1/2" instead of 1 inch.
    When driving a drift in to a piece of steel a 1/2 in wide drift will penatrate twice the depth of a 1 inch. Drift.
    Then you progress to a larger tapered drift to drift out the hole. Pushing metal sideways not out.
    Pre heat your dies first. You will get twice as many presses on the first attempt. If it does not weld on the first attempt you are wasting you efforts. Same with the anvil first up put a piece of plate into forge heat it to cherry lay it on your Anvil. Other wise the Anvil sucks the heat out of your in seconds.
    In my shop by morning tea i can cook bacon and eggs on my anvil face or a piece of steak.
    You should be able to keep a piece of steel hot just by working it on a hot anvil.
    Hope this helps. TheSmithy.....!

    • Brian Rourke
      Brian Rourke 4 months ago

      @CG Smithing not a problem anytime. I am a 7 generation Blacksmith. I now pass on my knowledge to who ever wants to learn.
      Cheers
      TheSmithy

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  4 months ago

      Thank you so much for the positive feedback. I will from now on do that!!!

  • tardster
    tardster 5 months ago +1

    did you ever figure out how to bypass the button. I made one similar to yours but I have to hold the button down and i'd like to skip that part lol...

    • tardster
      tardster 5 months ago

      thank you I will go check it out now

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  5 months ago

      Heres the video bud i hope this can help you out. ru-clip.net/video/JIOVVvM3HeM/video.html

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  5 months ago

      Man i have the perfect solution to your prob. Do you have HOJ forge on your sub list? I helped him out on his build but he did a bypass on his button. Think its his 3rd build video go check him out its a super simple modification.

  • Tony Haynes
    Tony Haynes 6 months ago +1

    You sir are a genius. Nice

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago

      And you are a legend!! Hope this helped buddy

  • Joar Flesjå
    Joar Flesjå 6 months ago +1

    Great video and thanks for shereing. Im looking to make one and press down some leaf spring so i can make axes.

    • Joar Flesjå
      Joar Flesjå 6 months ago +1

      @CG Smithing then i will try it when i find time to make the press.
      😅

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago

      It works great for nice square billets and material but how it will do on thinner stock i have no idea

  • Robinson Knives
    Robinson Knives 6 months ago

    why did you leave it horizontal? thanks

    • Robinson Knives
      Robinson Knives 6 months ago

      CG Smithing thank you very much

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago +1

      @Robinson Knives nope not yet i could try that out tomorrow and let you know. I built everything with what ever i had and as its standing. So ill check it out tomorrow and ill let you know

    • Robinson Knives
      Robinson Knives 6 months ago

      CG Smithing sorry one last question have you tried turning it vertical?

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago +1

      Any time man

    • Robinson Knives
      Robinson Knives 6 months ago

      CG Smithing thank you very much sir

  • W.T.F. Maker Studio
    W.T.F. Maker Studio 6 months ago +1

    thank you for the proof of concept brother. this video helped me make the decision to pull the trigger on a similar 5 ton

  • Piney Hollows Homestead

    You could get a foot switch and wire it in place of the push button. Then you can hold it down with your foot and work the lever with your left hand. However, i love the idea, and may try to adapt my 25t gas powered splitter

    • Piney Hollows Homestead
      Piney Hollows Homestead 6 months ago +1

      @CG Smithing im sure you could come up with a treadle switch, but just a simple on off, not a variable output like one for a tig rig or a sewing machine. Then fabricate mechanical linkage that works the drive lever.

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago

      Now thats an idea!!!!

    • Piney Hollows Homestead
      Piney Hollows Homestead 6 months ago +1

      @CG Smithing that would work. Engage the electrical switch with your heal and engage the drive with the toe or ball of your foot.

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  6 months ago

      I was thinking mabe moving the botton right on to the foot switch

  • Chris Lawrence
    Chris Lawrence 7 months ago +1

    Finally I am definitely going to have a go now maybe a clip on th button so you can just use the handle

  • Madworkx Trouble
    Madworkx Trouble 7 months ago +1

    Hey 👋
    Brilliant result. Wood chopper to forgepress. Thank you for the demonstration 👍

  • Tyler bolen
    Tyler bolen 7 months ago +1

    This is a great idea and I have seen this done before in person at the shop I work at I suggest attaching a little arm to your foot lever that contacts your button so that when your foot hits the ram it also hits the button making both hands available.

  • DERICKBLAIR4
    DERICKBLAIR4 7 months ago +1

    very cool mate. Must still be chilly in your neck of the woods, can see the cold steel sucking the heat out o the billet when it presses at the beginning, very awesome

  • Eric Davis
    Eric Davis 7 months ago +2

    Subscribed on the strength of this video alone.
    STRIKE TRUE BROTHER

  • DragonWater Forge
    DragonWater Forge 7 months ago +1

    Awsome im doin this

  • Craig J
    Craig J 7 months ago +2

    Looks good eh. Gotta love Canadian ingenuity. Thanks for sharing and you gotta love Princess Auto

  • techron mattic
    techron mattic 7 months ago +1

    Good Job, can you punch a hole through 3/8 plate my guess is it will do it like a hot knife through butter but may struggle much bigger, would love too see how thick a material it can get through

    • techron mattic
      techron mattic 7 months ago

      Lol cool, if you get time go check out mattyyoungcloudsart, and if you like his content throw him a sub as well

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +2

      And why the hell am i not subbed to your channel?!?!?! Prob solved

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago

      Good idea!!!!! Ill see what i can come up with

  • DMPinBC
    DMPinBC 7 months ago

    If I'm going to start forging, would you recommend H3 or H6 coal? :-P

  • Chuck Springfield
    Chuck Springfield 7 months ago +1

    This is a really good proof of concept thank you for making this video! A foot petal would be perfect for the button and safety lever and would be a relatively easy and inexpensive modification. I look forward to seeing your other dies and modifications going forward! Cheers

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      appreciate the comment thank you!!! ill post vids on the dies as soon as i get a chance

  • Soggy Bottom Forge
    Soggy Bottom Forge 7 months ago +1

    Thanks for the great video. You answered two of my questions in one video. Would a smaller splitter like that work? And is there some way to set it up without having to totally redesign it? WANT!!!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      Man you know what?! You are very welcome!!!

  • eric whitmire
    eric whitmire 7 months ago +2

    Hell yeah! I've been meaning to try the same thing but have not wanted to waste the money if it didn't work. Great proof of concept. I would bypass the button though. Thanks!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      Oooooh buddy believe me as soon as i get a chance that button is gone!!!!!

  • Grandadz Forge
    Grandadz Forge 7 months ago +3

    Thank you! I was just gifted a 7 ton that looks almost identical to yours. Now I know it'll work!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      you should see this thing draw out a piece of steel!!!!

  • Default Channel
    Default Channel 7 months ago +1

    Bypass the button so it's foot pedal only.

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      I havent messed with the electronics yet but yes i want to try something like that now that i know that it works good

  • Erik Courtney
    Erik Courtney 7 months ago +8

    I’m glad someone did this. I’ve been wanting to try it myself but Leary of the power but you solved the issue.
    One thing I would suggest is putting some sort of guides for the sides of the slide. Keep from getting the groves with a potential cold shut.

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      I need to round over the edges on my dies...and i need more practice hahahaha

  • Mike Lowery/ Lowery's Forge

    Nice man. That is pretty sweet!!! Been seeing a 7 ton for $175 in my area and was wondering how it would do.

    • Mike Lowery/ Lowery's Forge
      Mike Lowery/ Lowery's Forge 7 months ago

      @CG Smithing check this out, ru-clip.net/video/asHNQKjPoWo/video.html

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      GET IT GET IT GET IT!!!!! even if you use this thing to just draw out steel save on some time. i didnt show how it draws out steel but it is INSANE!!! diff dies though

  • Safety 3rd Forge Outdoors and More

    That is awesome!!!!

  • Shamrock Forge
    Shamrock Forge 7 months ago +1

    Frack yeah bud. That's awesome

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago

      The HF one is a 5 ton. I'm pretty sure it would do the same thing mabe a bit better. Try for a nice second hand one

    • Shamrock Forge
      Shamrock Forge 7 months ago

      @CG Smithing man I'd get a harbor freight (same thing) if it worked like that. One piece at a time tho

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago

      will show ya some time how she draws out

  • shepards forge h
    shepards forge h 7 months ago +2

    Your billets are about the same size i use when doing it by hand actually a lill bigger! Im digging this!

  • shepards forge h
    shepards forge h 7 months ago +3

    Im only a few minutes in and i have to have 1!!

    • CG Smithing
      CG Smithing  7 months ago +1

      DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE THIS THING CAN DRAW OUT STEEL LIKE CRAZY!!!! ill do a vid on how it draws out at some point for ya