Was Windows Vista THAT bad?

VISTA is fine

Windows 10 is making every other OS look better and better.
It has that effect.

The last line at the start ruined it but it was expected

*watches video*
video: bloody slow bloated mess....
*looks at 8 year old pc*
me: h m

I've had 95, ME, Vista, 7 and 10 PCs. But I've never had a PC with 98, 2000, XP or 8.

Vista wasn't that bad. I ran Vista from when it got released until Win 7 finally launched.
Didn't like the "Made for Vista" logo though... Hardware needs to be modern and good enough to run any new os. The same goes for Windows 10. You can't and shouldn't expect that your ancient piece of shit might work on a new OS. With that said, my first gen i7 sandbox PC can easily run Win 10!
ME wasn't that bad either. It depends on what you expect from an OS. Both were great transitioning OS'es, Vista a lot more than ME though... But if you like me, enjoy new stuff and know how to use it and what to expect, then it wasn't that bad at all.
Problem with UAC in general is that people hate dialogs until those exact dialogs could have saved their asses. Example: "Are you sure you want to *something*", common answer: "Yes!!! Why do you think I clicked..." FFS!!! Well, when it doesn't ask and something goes wrong because you fucked up, the common answer is suddenly, "Why didn't you ask before doing *something*? FFS!!!" It's just impossible to make people happy.
I never hated UAC, and app developers were just as much to blame back then. If it ask for administrative permision that allows it to change your system, wouldn't you like to be noticed?
Unless you're trying to run or install something that changes the system, you wouldn't have the UAC issue. Do it right and everything worked fine!
I enjoyed my time in Vista!

- Was Windows Vista that bad?
- Well, yes but actually no

Yo man it aint no windows 98se!

I remember being excited to upgrade my PC to Vista and once I installed the OS, I was wowed at the new looks. Then I realized that it ran much slower then XP and I hated it lol.

Windows Vista is not so bad

Yeah, the main and effective reason was because the policy of Bill Gates was: "I will always choose a lazy person to do a difficult job, because they will find an easy way to do it." Vista and Windows 8 was in the same group of lazy programmers ...????

nothing like windows ME, vista was just a baby compared jajajaja

Mojave experiment made it worse for Microsoft. People doubled down on their hate for it after that.

I loved Vista, and Windows 7 wasn't Windows 7 at all, but Window Vista SP3. The worst thing about Vista, by that point, was the reputation it had acquired, and I kept arguing that XP, at release was pretty bad compared to Windows 2000 with up-to-date service packs, and XP SP2 actually got *worse*!!! So, yea, I resented having to re-buy Windows Vista to get SP3. You look at the differences between Vista SP2 and Windows 7, and they're considerably less than between XP SP2 and SP3. The rebrand was exactly that. It was a necessary marketing gimmick.

However, I still feel a little fleeced by it. I adopted Vista early, loved UAC, loved the fact that *lazy* users got annoyed by all the UAC dialogues when they were doing ridiculously insecure things with their computer, because it made them reconsider their behaviour. I'd been using Commodos' equivalent for XP for a while, and because I was used to needing to sudo, doas, or some graphical equivalent on POSIX OS for years, and hated the fact that *every* XP app seemed to need you to be logged in as a local admin with full rights **and** internet access... (something you should never give a user app, let alone a full-screen entertainment app, such as video games, which were the worst offenders) It made users *complain* to software vendors for doing this to them. (which they should have been doing for years) Vista was incredibly stable, for me, and perhaps because I'd already been used to isolating apps in safe non-root environments, with only the access they *really* needed, rather than what they *wanted* me to give them. UAC didn't bother me, and I wasn't beyond changing the XML trust file / resource in a PE executable to make it play nice with UAC etc.

It utilised my x64 processor and more than 3.5Gig of RAM as it should, and which **no** version of Windows XP would do. (there was an x64 version of XP, but it sucked ass **hard**, and didn't run either x86 or x64 apps well, leading most people to stick to the x86 version and burn the last half gig of a 4 gig system, or fight with PAE extensions which didn't work well)

I also used it for reverse software engineering with Olly Debug, and would actually correct things in XP binaries which were **not** open-source and just written **wrong** to begin with. So many developers seemed to be ignoring Microsofts' style guidelines because XP had just been the only thing worth testing your software on for so long, and if it worked; Who cares if you're breaking the rules, right? Again, we had Power Users back in Windows 2000 to get around needing low-level access to DVD burners and promiscuous networking and DMA access for accelerated graphics and such... But, no; They insisted you be a local admin or they wouldn't run. There was **no need** for that behaviour, and the fact that that culture existed was only the slightest bit Microsofts' fault, and **none** of Windows Vistas' fault for doing it *correctly*. It's indignation at these poorly written programs was entirely righteous, and justified.

I *did* get rid of the widget bar, and replace it with Konfabulator, (later Yahoo! widgets) which also worked just fine on XP, and whose widgets were easily portable from Mac Dashboard ones. Incidentally, side-bar widgets from Vista could still be installed as desktop widgets in Windows 7, for a while. I did disable the pre-caching, because it was *too* heavy, and *did* lead to me not having enough free memory at times, and that was tuned down in Windows 7 so that the disabling wasn't necessary, but I still tend to disable on Windows 10 when it *still* annoys me. But it's optional, right? If you don't like it, turn it off. I also turn of the "tiling" when you bump windows to a side of the screen, which Vista introduced, and lives on in Windows 10. I still turn back **on** the underlines on hotkeys for menu items. User preference for, the, win!

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Yes

I think Windows Vista is a released beta version of Windows 7.

Yes. Yes it was. Vista was 7: R&D Edition. They released a buggy OS and collected reports to fix the next release. I will give that towards EoL they fixed a number of issues, and aero is pretty neat(seriously, if you havent tried it, hit win+tab, youre welcome). But yes, Vista was as bad as we all remember. Period. End of story.

Side rant: Why the fuck is there 4 links that all go to the exact same power settings?!?!?!

Windows Vista on an Inspiron is great, Windows Vista is literally my favourite OS

When shit hits the fan

The video is excellent, the studio lighting is better :)

Linus blames everyone but Microsoft :\

Operating Systems now tend to be more functional. They tend not to go with visual appeal anymore.

You are happy like a child. Please install Linux and your happies never ending. In next video please.

Vista was and is the best.

Longhorn was intended to be a "semantically pivotable OS and GUI", backed onto a kind of SQL server... as a means of anticipating high volumes of data and better ways of not just organising that data, but utilising it in a kind of super AI ML DL way. Think fuzzy pivotable venn diagrams. MS failed because they TOOK the original idea and ran with it, without really 'grokking' the original intent. And thus couldn't implement a vision that was not really theirs in the first place. Paradise Lost... All because they did not want to acknowledge or pay the person with the vision(s) in the first place. Heck, they would rather pay cheap assed hackers a billion in cash for implementing tiny parts of the vision in a game... And rely on the MIISC (military industrial intelligence surveillance complex) to fill in the creativity gaps. Stolen fruit tastes sweet, but you just don't get the secret sauce no matter how hard you try... Stupid way to do business, but that is the 'freedom' we have these days, 'eh? Stupidity and greed leading us to an apocalypse via the 'free market' of 'liberal ideas' backed by 'religious freedoms'. Way to go 'market reformists'! Too many dollars, and not enough cents...

and if you want an os that simply screams inside say virtualbox, try nt4 workstation, in 4k no less, using tiny amounts of resources (less than linux) - great for task based work using old style apps - which just poop all over the modern variants (mostly)!

I liked vista, still do, and have often wondered why it was killed off. my echo chamber answered that it was maybe too secure for some types who like to peep and pry, for fun and profit, under the guise of national security...

Windows Mojave 🤔

Even now, Vista is still my favourite OS aesthetically speaking...

Vista worked perfectly on my laptop.

If you don't talk about vista bluescreening because of solitaire I hate you

Windows Vista.. I always loved it because of its name!

Windows Vista and Windows 2000 were a very good OS Systems I don't know why they were scaped I love Windows 2000 it was very fast and secured.

Tbh I regret ever changing from XP ---> Vista. Such a downgrade imo. I loved XP.

windows: Mojave
apple: hmmm... can we borrow that idea thanks?

I never had an issue with Windows Vista.Was it heavy on the CPU and GPU? Yes. But it was a step forward and not always the industry is ready for change at the time a new product hits the market. Oh and best thing Vista gave us, awesome music. Check it out.

I loved windows vista i never had any problems with it as long as i kept up maintenance

Tl; dr: ye.

When speaking of being bloated, windows 8 and 10 are far worse on that. Coming with non-removable software many people dont want or need.

Windows Vista is yo

I've had tons of blue screens with that thing. Driver issues were a nightmare.

trying vista on my blade v6

The problem with Vista was not just with drivers, even Microsoft's own software was full of weird behaviour. I remember having no problems copying files from my Linux machine to two different Vista computers while they were unable to access each others shares (they saw them but were unable to open them). Until it started working about a month later. I never found out why. I had similar issues with network printers, one of these computers could access it only on every second boot. Again, very weird with no explanation but at least it was consistent that it was every second boot. And such surprises were common with Vista.

Windows Vista wasn't bad at all. I've always loved vista. Windows Me isn't terrible either. Windows 8 is another story though...

yes... yes it is

I like windows vista. It works well on my 2005 windows xp laptop and im still using it

Riley.....

Please make a video about UI. comparing Windows 7 x Windows 7 x IOs

windows vista, more like


Windows CEMeNT

Skeomorphism was the best in win vista

I miss gadgets

What is that monitor behind Linus at 0:59??

Vista was good but its heavy . The average hardware for that time cannot catch up .

Unfortunately Windows 10 updates feels like vista, buggy and there is no service packs

To be honest if you pc can barely run a os, you should get a different one.

Vista was horrible. Only thing that was good from it was the desktop gadgets

I think Windows vista is a solid os made my Microsoft 😉

I had vista on laptop for about 10 years and it was really stable OS, never had to reinstall or fix anything.

It was shit

Thanks for the great MS Vista look back. It's funny how I got to see tech move from a landline 56k modem to cable modems. I remember using Windows 3.1 when we all used MS Dos. Windows 10 has come a long way. I just love it.

welcome im linus an idiot who tests old software on new hardware and claims it to not be a biased review ....no linus! win vista sucks i had 2 laptops and if u wnt ill send u one to prove just how bad the fking experience was u troll

The first Vista machine I worked on was so bugged by the UAC issue that none of the online solutions worked for it, I couldn't even reset it. I think that is the only PC I have ever given up on and said to take it back for a refund. (it was the same year they stopped shipping the OS disks)

Windows 7! Windows 7!

*OS idea club*

No one:

Windows developers: "An OS what makes your computer slower."

7:41: WHO IS THAT GIRL!? *WHO IS SHE!?!?*

I liked Vista had way over the specs it needed

I remember back 2007 when had Windows Vista my gaming PC, it was crashing while I playing online games.

Watching this on vista

i love vista more than dat shitty windows me

Yep , So Windows Vista Is S#!t

Nice software is Zver DVD i like very nice support for application very nice to game olsu

Vista breaks when you play solitaire. It can't even do solitaire well

That's quite the wobbly monitor you got there

I would take vista any day over Windows 8

Lol, if you ask me, Windows 7 is just a copy of Windows Vista but with bug fixes and a new desktop.

Windows Vista was terrible but it lead the way for Windows 7 which is one of the best Windows created

Im watching this on windows vista...

1 Like= 1 prayer

Maybe Vista needs more RAM to be installed like
8 GB

i like the intro

Only racists don’t like windows vista

I had a very good gpu and vista runs today (with that hw) very smoothly and i think that oem pc werent enough powerful to load vista.
If you think on netbooks with win10 they runs smoothly because there isnt Windows Aero.
PEOPLE WANTS LOW COST PC RUNNING VERY HEAVY SOFTWARE.
THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE

"Worst Windows launch ever." Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure Windows 10 is a contender....

I think I was one of the only people that loved Vista. I still love Vista, it was a badass OS to me back in the day.

I'll stick with Windows 7 as long as I can or until there's a new PROPER Windows. And if Microsoft keeps making crap like Windows 10 I might aswell switch to Linux and run a virtual Windows just for gaming.

yes lol

Back before this were being optimised for touch screens. Also, I had Windows me, so maybe that's why I don't feel so salty about it

You're right, Vista was ahead of it's time. Because of Vista, I learned more cuss words sooner than I should have!

Windows Vista
Can’t even play Solitaire

UI of Vista is the best ever.

Was Windows THAT bad

Windows Mojave and Mac OS Mojave

ubic-quitis ? wtf is that ?

good example with the popups , made me Laugh , like win 7 ultimate , are you sure you wanna do this or that ? , Yessss Fuck off !

Really 2007 ? shit i'm Old , lol

i'm not surprised , its Really not that bad , ME on the other hand was total Crapola !

ha ! looks like a Dell Optiplex , i got the GX620 with XP Pro on it right now

no it wasn't , some systems won't install XP but Vista loads in , *Shrugs Shoulders* , i never found it slow or bloated , just saying

want to use vista? just turn off wifi

I'm keeping the vista sticker on this old laptop....