You Can't Make This Up Podcast: Making a Murderer | Episode 2 | Netflix

  • Published on Mar 4, 2019
  • Dan Taberski, host of Missing Richard Simmons and the upcoming Headlong series leads a roundtable discussion about Making a Murderer with Criminal host Phoebe Judge and attorney David Rudolf. They talk about what draws them into this story, the power of the true crime genre, and what they hope happens next.
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Comments • 92

  • SPDworks
    SPDworks Day ago +1

    Here's the thing with your analysis of the series Making a Murderer:
    You elude to a concept that the filmmakers were actually trying to set up their audience to perceive the show as something specific, based on their own personal feelings. Part 1 of this YT shorts series on MaM series provides an interview with the creators of MaM, and in it, answers to questions explain clearly their intention: to provide a venue, a place which otherwise did not exist for society at large, and the start of a conversation for the laymen of the world to have a chance to look inside the justice system and to see the backstory on both sides.
    However, when one side of the story refuses to be part of the project, for whatever reason, it becomes difficult to provide a more balanced program. To their credit, these creators of this docu-series provided as much non biased information as possible in place of discussion, interview, opinion, and storyline for those who refuse to be part of the project. And those people are listed at the end of every episode of Making a Murderer to make very clear that they had an opportunity to speak on their behalf or on the behalf of those who, for whatever reason, could not, at the time, speak for themselves.
    The fact that the creators are heartfelt artists is of benefit to the audience. Within this piece of outstanding reporting and telling of a true story, lay the interests, concerns and conviction by the creators to the project and to its audience. Without these things, it would arrive to the audience with no feeling, no emotion. We, the public, were not delivered a tin man, screaming for a heart. We, the public, were delivered a brilliant documentary on a tragic event. Unsolved, speculation and concern continues to this day.
    And without this information they were kind enough and brave enough to compile and share with all of us, for many people in the world, the discussion that continues as to what in the hell happened in Wisconsin to Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey would have likely been less than a footnote on a police ledger. Do not attempt to imply that this documentary was anything but a truthful retelling of a crime against all of us until it is truly and finally solved.

  • SPDworks
    SPDworks Day ago +1

    The dude who invented the lie detector said he didn't think it should be used to determine anything in a court case. The brain fingerprinting device is based on evidence that the subject either knows because they are aware of the details or does not know because they are not aware of the the details. It measures specific changes in brain activity according to specific words or phrases associated with an event that remains to have new facts unknown to all but for those who witnessed and/or took part in the event.

  • bill Manley
    bill Manley 2 months ago

    One sided Docu-crap

  • Terry Scroggs
    Terry Scroggs 4 months ago +1

    Chris Smith the guy was right at getting a 35 million dollar check, At what part of killing the girl was it to his advantage? Hes as innocent as you are. He was framed because the money was going to bankrupt the city and the defense attorneys were the most dishonest men I've seen. Remember he wasn't guilty of the first murder eir6her.

  • Kerry Dehorney
    Kerry Dehorney 4 months ago

    Is Richard Simmons dead?

  • Tina bowbina
    Tina bowbina 4 months ago

    my take of the Dassey interrogation was that Brandon lied then he tripped himself up.. I was outraged at him lying.. He was protecting his brother.. I'm convinced

  • Daggisdarko Dagasle78
    Daggisdarko Dagasle78 4 months ago

    I was a big believer that they didnt do it, but after Brandon's phone call to his mother where he confessed, I am 90% sure they are guilty. NEVER SPEAK TO THE COPS. NEVER!!!!!

  • Jay D
    Jay D 4 months ago

    Is this about season 2 or episode 2?

  • Robert Lee, Countertenor

    What the hell is ON MY BLOCK?

  • Jennifer Thom
    Jennifer Thom 4 months ago

    Part 2.....let us not forget the 18 years Steven had to spend in prison for a crime[ ...which was proven ] that he did not commit in 1985!! A quick summary to jog any minds that are not familiar - Roughly 10 years into Stevens prison term, AN INMATE AT THE BROWN COUNTY PRISON confessed to committing the rape crime & also staying that another man [Steven avery] was doing time for it. This led to law officers in brown county making a call to the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. The call was answered by officer COULBORN ..Who was informed of the confession of guilt by someone in the brown county prison & that Steven Avery of Manitowoc was doing time for the crime but was wrongly convicted. At that point, He said he needed to transfer the call to his boss (sheriff). He then promptly hung up his end of phone. However, call never made it to sheriff & Coulborn never bothered to follow up. Approx. 8 YEARS LATER..district attorney DOUGLAS JONES (whom I know personally) contacted the sheriff's department questioning the very issue & wanting to know where the info& memo went regarding this matter & what the status was. Officer Coulborn went to then sheriff & a backdated memo was created to cover the ignorance of the 8 year lack of follow through...that led to the RELEASE OF STEVEN AVERY AFTER 18 YEARS TAKEN FROM HIM IN PRISON. The rape victim publicly & remorsefully apologized to Steven & he forgave her. But law enforcement passed the buck & the blame..did not admit fault or apologize..AND WRONGFUL CONVICTION TRIAL REVEALED THE VIOLATIONS by law enforcement in various positions...sick...just disgusting..1985 ..a picture of Steven was shown to the rape victim..and she was asked. was it this man..she said yes...She should have had to give a description first or seen a lineup!! horrific!!

  • Jennifer Thom
    Jennifer Thom 4 months ago +1

    Imagine living in I do! Imagine knowing many of the people that are involved whether it be in the court system or on a personal level. I grew up believing that truth always prevails. That court systems will allow evidence to defend statements..and burden of proof resting with those who are trying to accuse a person based on presumption. Over the past 10 years I have gone through 3 experiences ...where I know that my rights were violated, statutes of law were broken according to Wisconsin law, and evidence was provided in excess ..yet overlooked or ignored which has negatively impacted my life!! I actually can feel the ABSOLUTE frustration, grief, anger, and hopelessness that ANY PERSON would feel if everything we do CORRECTLY ACCORDING TO THE LAW...makes no difference to the situation. [ * note** keep in mind - I have no criminal issues involved family court for a divorce, employment information in a dispute with records, & being targeted/held under a microscope due to RUMORS/Gossip!!

    • SPDworks
      SPDworks Day ago +1

      Considering that in the state of Wisconsin, the burden of proof lies with the accused and not the court... "shit hole" would about sum it up for me. I remember Dean (one of Steven's defense lawyers in the 2007 trial saying something about this to the prosecution, when prosecution made some snarky remarks about how they didn't feel it was necessary to spend too much time on the case, since they already had the guilty party. Funny... That's pretty much what Andy Colburn's boss told him when Brown County called saying they had Gregory Allen in custody and he was saying he'd been the one to rape Penny on the beach in 1985. "Tell them we already have who we want and they don't need to concern themselves further..." Something like that, but that conversation wouldn't see the light of day for years after.

    • James Barlow
      James Barlow 3 months ago +1

      Jennifer. I feel for u. Used to live in Sheboygan, a similar shithole for identical reasons.

  • Alana's Take
    Alana's Take 4 months ago

    I dont agree with what they did to brendan but for this guy to say a teenage boy can not be held responsible for his behavior is bullshit

  • Linus Knight
    Linus Knight 4 months ago +1

    convinced this "podcast" exists to appease the prosecution to help netflix with the lawsuit(s)

  • Linus Knight
    Linus Knight 4 months ago +7

    Guys... @9:00 - she's not just "a defense lawyer" like yourself - she is specifically a lawyer for wrongful convictions in connection with the "innocence project". so yes she needed to be clear that if Avery was guilty and trying to fool her like she's just another attourney, it won't work because her extensive testing will tell the absolute truth. Unbiased

    • Travis Williamson, Esq.
      Travis Williamson, Esq. 4 months ago +1

      You missed that a little bit @Linus, for that particular case she is Post-conviction counsel, and, for a time, had a Mid-West IP attorney on the case who was admitted in WI. She handles all types of civil litigation, including medical malpractice, cases, She in particular said that she won't take on a guilty client for a post-conviction case after her first experience

  • Linus Knight
    Linus Knight 4 months ago +1

    the prosecutions argument is basically "yes my football team of 6 people played against a one person team. But it was in our opinion that he knew it was 6 on 1 and that he agreed to play anyway.
    the point is regardless you just don't do that. it's a coward move and morally wrong. you can't feel like a man winning at football in a game of 6 on 1 - and the cops can't feel like they're good at their jobs by what they did. But i don't feel as sorry for Brendan as most do. He wasn't 3.

  • chris smith
    chris smith 4 months ago +1

    & I'm happy that the rest of the world is reconsidering the validity of blood spatter "evidence ". From the very 1st years that I saw the way it was being (mis)used, I thought: "wait a minute ". The way prosecutors considered blood spatter, it was as if they were operating under the assumption that both the perpetrator and the victim were lying/sitting/standing completely motionless--& of course that is almost NEVER how these crimes happen. They usually are flailing about wildly, which in turn renders the blood spatter evidence worthless. There is no way to determine what happened where & when & how, it is random. The same applies to bite marks, btw. No one lies perfectly still while being bitten, therefore the bruises are going to take a totally random appearance.

  • chris smith
    chris smith 4 months ago +5

    As a citizen of the United States, JUSTICE is my # 1 priority, & I think it's a WONDERFUL thing that Kathleen Zellner is willing to prove the guilt of someone she's defending. I wish all attorneys did the same.

  • Zenn Labs
    Zenn Labs 4 months ago

    Why is this just being uploaded now?? This is crack to my ears

  • Tamara Spink
    Tamara Spink 4 months ago +1

    Why had the Peterson lawyer not even watched Season Two before being invited onto the podcast! He had nothing to add. And he’s brilliant, so it was a missed opportunity.

  • JJacks61
    JJacks61 4 months ago +5

    Wiegert and Fassbender couldn't get back in that room fast enough. They KNEW EXACTLY what they had done. I speculate this really began when these LEO's took the Dassey's to Fox Hill's and isolated them, just two days earlier. They set that kid up numerous times.

    • SPDworks
      SPDworks Day ago

      Yep. That was because the county was concerned for their safety, following Uncle Steven's arrest for murder. 🙄
      And it was at Fox Hills where they (Wigs and Factbender) ordered "Kiss the Girls" on PPV for Brendan to watch so he couldn't just say, "Wiggy and Factbender put all those dirty pictures in my head before they arrested me."

  • Damon Salvatore
    Damon Salvatore 4 months ago


  • Shaun Smith
    Shaun Smith 4 months ago

    Bring back Joel Mchale!!!

  • Kp Slayyys
    Kp Slayyys 4 months ago +4

    NETFLIX we need a on my block season 2 trailer and a season 3stranger things trailer please and thankyou👍

  • M C11
    M C11 4 months ago

    where is the on my block trailer? idk wtf is that but everyone is commenting about it 😂😂😂😂😂

    • Kp Slayyys
      Kp Slayyys 4 months ago

      It’s a really good show and the second season is coming soon so people are lookin for the trailer

  • Jocy
    Jocy 4 months ago +2

    OMB season 2 trailer ??????

  • Goldilocks
    Goldilocks 4 months ago

    When is the next season of Magnificent Century coming back??

  • Lucas Costa
    Lucas Costa 4 months ago

    places to target patrol series on netflix please

  • Christian Brown
    Christian Brown 4 months ago +4

    On my block trailer hello?

  • Anoushka Foltier
    Anoushka Foltier 4 months ago +6


  • Javaid Miah
    Javaid Miah 4 months ago +5

    Kathleen is a bawse

  • Elizabeth
    Elizabeth 4 months ago

    Dear Netflix
    I was just wondering where the fuck is On My Block trailer?

    A user about to cancel their subscription

  • Jonathan Finger
    Jonathan Finger 4 months ago +11

    On my block season 2 trailer???

  • Jam K
    Jam K 4 months ago +17

    Excuse me Netflix I think you owe us the on my block season 2 trailer

    • Kp Slayyys
      Kp Slayyys 4 months ago

      And a season 3 trailer for stranger things

    • Luna Lovegood
      Luna Lovegood 4 months ago

      Jam K Nah it’s trash for assholes

  • Voltic Alex
    Voltic Alex 4 months ago +17


    • stupefy
      stupefy 4 months ago

      Lucy Netflix said they're airing in march

    • stupefy
      stupefy 4 months ago +1

      Luna Lovegood girl that show is underrated tf

    • Luna Lovegood
      Luna Lovegood 4 months ago

      Michael's Life Ok racist

    • Luna Lovegood
      Luna Lovegood 4 months ago

      Alex Lopez06 In the trash where it belongs

  • What you looking At?
    What you looking At? 4 months ago

    Bitch, fuck all of this where the fuck is the on my block trailer

  • PrettyQueen
    PrettyQueen 4 months ago

    I do not understand why you won’t drop the trailer. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TRAILER IM TALKING ABOUT!!! #on my block!!!!!!!!!
    Edit: no disrespect to this podcast but seriously!!!!!!! I’m sorry guys but Netflix is really fucking with the fans of the show!

  • santanaoutlaw
    santanaoutlaw 4 months ago +2

    Brendan guilty.... they just edited it to make it look coerced.

    • SPDworks
      SPDworks Day ago

      @Bart Cornelius 🤣 I was just about to get mad at you 😜

    • Shin Oku
      Shin Oku 4 months ago

      The problem with that is his just being there does not make him guilty of assault rape or murder. That's what he was charged with. That's what he is doing a life sentence for...

    • santanaoutlaw
      santanaoutlaw 4 months ago

      Shin Oku
      The investigators also said various things that he denied happened. So it wasn't like they were convincing him to say yes to everything.
      Like I said, it's possible that Avery is innocent but Dassey is very guilty. I think his inconsistencies are because he either has cognitive dissonance or he's lying to protect his brother & stepdad. Teresa was either killed by the Dasseys or Avery, either way Brendan was definitely there.

    • Shin Oku
      Shin Oku 4 months ago +2

      The problem was the evidence did not fit the confession he gave the first time. He was interagated multiple times. Every time it was different. In the first confession she was killed in the trailer. Then outside. Then in the garage. Each time the interagators are feeding him the information and that's why his confessions are so varied... They didn't even use his confessions in averys trial cause it hurt the states case cause it was not true and the evidence reflected that...

    • santanaoutlaw
      santanaoutlaw 4 months ago

      Bart Cornelius
      This ain't the movies kid. Every case doesn't always have dna evidence. Especially when the murderers burn the evidence & the body.

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    Serine Serine 4 months ago +4

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  • stupefy
    stupefy 4 months ago +18


    • What you looking At?
      What you looking At? 4 months ago

      Stupefy you welcome

    • stupefy
      stupefy 4 months ago

      Mr. FuckYourMomforliving thanks

    • stupefy
      stupefy 4 months ago

      Lucy but didn't they finished filming in November?

    • What you looking At?
      What you looking At? 4 months ago +2

      Stupefy I got source look, it tells you release date and more

    • What you looking At?
      What you looking At? 4 months ago

      Stupefy nah if you are boy I was joking I ain’t on that homo shit

  • Lebron Irving
    Lebron Irving 4 months ago +3

    Now your just hurting my feelings

    • Caleb vibes
      Caleb vibes 4 months ago +1

      is this about the on my block trailer?

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    Jamal Ismael 4 months ago

    4th comment

  • Nero studio
    Nero studio 4 months ago

    Awesome dude 👏 👏, I really love it 💚

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    ? 4 months ago

    When is neon Genesis evangelion gonna be coming To Netflix?

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