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For my own reference:Sansa - 4:38Bronn - 11:37Varys - 14:04Jon - 20:29Tyrion - 26:41Jaime - 33:15Cersei - 38:38Daenerys - 46:15
Alex Caldwell That literally would’ve been amazing..and would’ve given bran something to do..
she missed bran... and how there are the cut scenes where bran was warging into Nymeria. They foreshadowed the "Super Pack" of direwolves back in season 7. When Bran left he was meant to bring in the pack by warging into Nymeria, picking up aria and thats how she jumped over a wall into the garden right onto the Night King. Also there was meant to be a battle between Jon and NK that would have halted access to the garden, they could have made every hit NK took from Jon kill an amount of walkers making the Plot Armor a lot weaker in the battle. It would have been epic but they said it would have cost too much for Nymeria, and said nobody would care about the 1v1 (wtf?!) despite spending 200 Million on all the other non sense this season...
@Marta PeixotoShe was touched upon in part 1.
what about arya?
@Lady Moses yeah it is I literally woke up to my wife sending me the story!
What a real women, you downed those spirits like they were nothing!
why haven't you reviewed dragon prince season 3?
Danaerys should have won the war against Cersei easily, and, like every self-righteous tyrant (e.g. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini), when the world's problems are not magically solved and the people are not unanimously grateful, she becomes increasingly punitive and cracks down harder and harder on dissent with the vain justification that she's a "liberator" and people love her and she's trying to "break the wheel", and therefore her crimes are more righteous. The issues should have cropped up when she wins the war, but the devastation causes starvation, rebellion, the north still wants to break away, etc. She imprisons and kills more and more dissenting populace with the justification that it's for the good of the "good" people (i.e. those who love her unconditionally), all while blissfully unaware that she has become the very thing she sought to destroy.Plus, because her entire identity is built around her being a "liberator", she will, on a personal level, necessarily require oppression in her realm for her to seek out and destroy. While the oppression might be obvious at first, eventually Danaerys will have to continually redefine what she sees as "oppression" in order to justify her role (and the role of her monarchy) as the "liberator", because without oppression (whether real or imagined) Danaerys has no purpose and no reason to exist anymore. The witch hunter always needs there to be another witch, or they become obsolete.
HOT FANTASY THAT FUCKS
I wish the cast of GOT would see this, especially Emilia Clarke, so the can see how royally f$&@ed over their characters’ endings were. And so they didn’t have to defend what Dumb and Dumber did to this show.
Going to tell my kids this is the final episode
Bronn should have gotten the Twins. The Freys are all dead, and you could argue that Tyrion keeps his word about always paying double: if Cersei gave Bronn a castle, Tyrion should give him two castles opposite each other. Also, the ruling house of the Twins flying a green burning chain across a river as their banner would be pretty cool to see.
Yes, but the chain wasn't used in the show...
The real winners of GoT are the actors, set/prop/costume designers, effects, cinematography, stunts, and soundtrack. I will praise everything except later season writing because everyone else clearly gave it their all with what they were given.
I have the seasons 1-4 on BR. I will sell them and buy beer for it.I will go for the books because George is alright.
I think at this point, he will never finish them
The show after the fifth season feel into the trap of "destiny" characters. Millions of fans tearing each other appart because "she's the rightfull queeeeen" "noooo HE's the rightfull Kiiiiiiing", or "nooo it's Stannis who has the better claiiiiiim" completely undermines the premise of the story : the game of thrones; meaning it does not matter who you are (provided you are a noble), power does not BELONG to you by divine right, you have to play the game to get it. Succession of power from father to son is just a way to guaranty power stays in the family.How can there be a rightfull ruler when there's invasions and rebelions? Is the targaryen's invasion of westeros rightfull? Or maybe the rightfull rulers are the first to inhabit the land? "Destiny" characters belong to a genre of story that GOT is fundamentaly not ; GOT is more about powerful families tearing each other appart rather than the return of a prophetic rightfull prince. The "prince that was promised" substory is here in my opinion to underline how unrealistic and shady prophetic characters are, and GOT, with its bases in medieval europe history, is nothing if not realistic.So the focus on the reaction of Jon learning what his name "actually is", instead of what the secret did to the families of westeros (robert's rebelion) is very telling. They tried to tell you what his "real name" aka "real status" is, instead of showing you the trauma of having his identity questionned and shifted after years of thinking himself a bastard. Which is way more interesting than "hey now, apparently I'm the rightfull king" in my opinion.Anyway, "destiny" is shite in stories, because it tries to pack up characters into neat little fixed packages, instead of focusing on their growth or actual peopleness.
I wonder if there's some sort of subliminal confederate lost cause subplot there somewhere. The liberator of slaves really being a tyrant and opposed by someone in favor of states' rights.
"The TV set," circa 2006, is a good movie with David Duchovni, about a writer having a dramatic series planned for TV gradually transformed in some bastardized cliché comedy. GOT is almost like as if the movie was based on a true story of the future, just switching the dramatic-contemporary-turned-into-cheap-comedy thing for fantasy-politicsy-nerdy-drama-turned-into-plain-epic-hollywoodian-action. A more complete movie-turn-real phenomeon would only have at some point some hero in GOT saying something analog to "yippee-kai-yay, motherfucker," before doing something bad-ass.
The eunuch's philosophy is not just that "the best ruler is the one who doesn't want to rule," which is actually likely preferable over someone who actually likes to rule, it's sort of an anti-dictatorial propensity, but also that the one he's favoring happens to not be "mad or cruel." Also good traits to lack for a ruler in my book. But counter him perhaps there wasn't much to support madness and cruelty of Emilia Clarke up to somewhat around that time (I don't recall if that was before or after the genocide, if that's after the genocide, then he's covered), who, before that, was pretty much the opposite of whatever they turned her into, to subvert the audience's expectation of character consistency.
Gosh, jealousy on being pretty? Why not say she has "feminine intuition"? At least use a "good" stereotype, still in line with the "she's getting smarter and smarter" development, rather than "in the end, she's just a stupid jealous girl. Maybe he had the hots for her adoptive brother as her hormones would tell her he isn't really her brother, and at this point, she can't barely withhold it anymore. Slut being a cunt."
I find weird that the character development apparently supposedly has to follow some ideal of female empowerment, rather than being just an individual, not constrained by educational themes. The real problem was just character consistency.
I love this bitch. She's so real.
hot topic pirate lol
I knew Lindsay would be able to tear this show a new one. Brutal, great video.
Critique of Power and how it is portrayed along with female figures starts out NOT mentioning Jane Jacobs as real life critic who stood in opposition to Robert Moses... (urban rhubarb catawampus) was it just cooler to make it a Robert-Versus-Robert plot?As for Sansa... that is some cayenne lemonade she made.😵
10:45Liberation theology is an actual, real life thing D&D, you idiots.*I* believe in liberation theology. It's the interpetation of Christianity as the religion of the oppressed.|=
Remember how fascism is all about the exaltation of the in group and the hatred of the out group?Remember how Daenarys... Didn't do that.
@Fire Tarrasque True, so could I, but only up to a certain point.
@Octavian Popescu It's fantasy, I can suspend my disbelief.
D&D think Fascism is scary, but cool costumes and colour combinations, as well as speeches and people sitting in neat rows. But what is Fascism doing in a medieval-like period? I hate it when modern imagery is used in such contexts.
This is by far the definitive break down of the nonsense that ended as Game of Groans. Lindsay you have an incredible eye for detail, and on so many levels. It's my weakness and not yours that I'm only seeing these two videos now. It's taken me this long to be able to face what really happened in what should have finished as one of the greatest shows off all time. You've covered it all with not just the common sense that Tyrion ran out of. Your pinpoint accuracy on understanding writing, for the better and worst, made the length of the two videos time will spent. You've given me the funeral I needed for G.O.T. It may now rest in peace, and may they not create any spin offs, because I'll not trust them. Thank you for your work, wit and wisdom ❤️
The funny thing is ... They killed Daenerys to let Jon and Tyrion remain sympathetic......and they ended up being not BECAUSE of that bs.
"I just don't trust her for some undefined reason" is whistleblower for "I just don't trust her because she's a woman".And no, Varys, the best person for the job is _not_ someone who doesn't want the job. Have you ever seen someone work who hates their job? There's a reason companies don't, as a matter of policy, make their offices smell like rancid fart and make everything have a slightly sticky texture.
@Octavian Popescu Oh shit, that's a painful callback to reality. Ow.
Hahaha! I kept telling people exactly this, people need to want to do the job in order to be good at it. Or how trials (Tyrion's) are not job interviews and being made the second most poweful person isn't an appropriate punishment for treason.
The "it's all about stories, and who has the best story?" also rings incredibly hollow, because GoT (and ASoIaF) won acclaim right from the beginning exactly because IT REGULARLY SUBVERTS WHAT WAS EXPECTED OF A FANTASY STORY. It's actually all about how neat stories don't play out when they involve real (or "realistic") people. That is GRR Martin's thesis, and so Tyrion's speech contradicts the entire basis of the show.
Maybe it's the misogyny
Watching this way later just allows me a moment to appreciate how frayed Lindsay's sanity must have been by this point, those eyes have real suffering in them
In defence of Sansa's suspicion of Daenerys, that may haver been random, like you say but it's a scientific fact that a lot of humans get naturally "uneasy" around people with personality disorders, it's an old animal instinct we used to have to defend ourselves from predators.
Is this a learned habit? Because she wasn't sensing anything around Joffrey, Cersei or Littlefinger in season 1, and she certainly wasn't sensing anything from Arya in season 7.
At the end of the day, you have to love something a lot, to be this sad about it... So true, and thats what hurts
A pair of centrist dudes seeing the charcoal grey characterization of Tyrion as the most relatable really says a lot about modern liberalism
Stopped watching at season 3 because I couldn't afford the DVDs. Nice to know I've saved myself the cost of the 5 other seasons.
I kept waiting for Daenerys to fly off to... the Red Keep... and attack the tyrant she came to dethrone who is obviously inside the place she apparently is triggered by... instead of burning all the common people for fuck all....
Uh book dany a psycho
We're you shilling for Corona in this episode? Everything you do is so deliberate that product placement seems intentional.
You know shits going down with Lindsay breaks out the spicy Funjions.
if there's one thing, that's been made clear to me and most, is that on tv land, as well as in hollywood in general, only hack dimwits can be hired as writers.
1:05:30 - Hell yes. I watched the first few seasons at least 5 times, but now I'll never see them again, and I cut out of the series mid season 5 and didn't even see the end.
Dear Lindsey, this would not bother you so much if you had not read so many books - it wouldn't bother you at all if you were, ahem, less bright.
I liked it when danearys burnt kings landing. I thought it was the most logical thing to do after beeing betrayed numerous times. I wanted her to break the wheel, although I knew this wouldn't happen. In the book there is a prophecy about this guy who has to kill his love to get the magic sword, which he uses to kill the night king with...that should have been her death. a sacrificial death to save the weak from true evil. Even after the burning of the city she kept my sympathie. In my eyes all the other characters are treacherous cunts.
Just realized Lindsay is wearing a cinnamon toast crunch robe
I've watched this video several times - it's cathartic every time. Thank you so much for your insights and intelligent dissection of something we once loved.
Ironically, the show really shit itself after THE BEST CHARACTER suffered from constipation and was murdered on the toilet.
39:57 Thank you.
the boo boo the fool meme does not fail to make me laugh every time you use it here. pure chaos hahaha
Man, thank you for your Sansa section! I talked with friends/co-worker about how awful she was in the last 3 seasons and was labelled as a misogynist for it, even after I explained why mainly a) last 3 seasons Sansa is totally different than first 3-4 seasons Sansa and b) book Sansa is much better (I know, book snob, whatev). And the same people after Dany did her 180 were like, "see see! She is a genius!" while they totally discounted the writing/plot/pace. I cannot wait to send this to them so I can have you put it into words and explain much much more fluently than I could. I salute you.
Where can we find the background music for the whole video? It's great
Excellent breakdown. Entertaining as well.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT DAENERYS ARE SPOT ON!!!
Yes I'm going to watch this hour long video about a show I've never seen, why do you ask?
See, I've never liked Dany. I always thought that the series would end with her being seen as a villain - pursuit of power, being seen as an invading force etc, her sort of black and white morality - because I always felt the theme was the nature of power etc. But I hated how it HAPPENED I felt it could have been a really good idea ... They just could not execute
I tried watching this because LE's analyses are so addictive but there are way too many spoilers so will have to watch season 8 first.
Don't put yourself through that pain. Watch this instead.
Nailed it. That’s the worst part of the ending! I can’t watch the earlier seasons anymore... even though they were really good.
Is this even worse than ‘I’m losing to a bird?’
1:04:05Kind of undercuts the SJW's Hillary argument. Hell, the MRA's haven't even made such a strawman case against women in power. Should these writer's politics be called into question?
Jon is not the rightful King!!! Why do people keep saying that??? The Targaryens were overthrown by Westeros. They aren’t the ruling Monarchs...that’s why no one gave a shit about Viserys! Who was actually the last surviving son of the Mad King.
Dominic Bounds Exactly! The only way Jon could be considered the true heir is if Daenerys was crowned queen and she enacted a Targaryen restoration. Daenerys’ claim to the throne is only entertained because she had a massive army and 3 large dragons...it’s not because her father was king 20 years ago. And not for nothing since Daenerys was killed and Gendry was made Legitimate (I’m not even going to go into how it makes no sense how Gendry would even have enough support to become Lord of Storm End) but he is which would make HIM the heir to the throne since HIS father was the last King.
@Dominic Bounds haha you are right there. That would have been a great story arc for Cersei.You know even all these months later I still am so disappointed by the last few seasons of this show. Season 8 was just the cherry on top of all that shit from season 5 onwards.The fact these two shitheads conned there way into making it and held such power is truly baffling!
@Michael Somjen I know, I know; there's so many black marks against her name in the eyes of society that she shouldn't have survived the bombing of the Sept - politically or physically.
@Dominic Bounds Yes and no, but there claim to the throne was a lot stronger and legitimate than Cersei. She really had no right, being Robert's consort, also the fact that queens of kings on the iron throne never take there husband family name nor inherite from them!
@Michael Somjen No objections from me on that front - like everything else in season 4 onwards, the idea is full of holes and reads like something frrom a different story.However, Stephen's argument was that Jon has no right to the throne because the Targaryens were overthrown.
your editing is so god damn good, good work! :)
Season 8: Look What You Made Me Do.Audience: We didn't want this.
"Everywhere she goes, evil men die." ...Oh no. How awful.